Jerry Torre: The Marble Faun of Grey Gardens
Ever wonder what happened to the handyman in the Maysle Bros. famous documentary about the Beales? He’s a cab driver.
Some people have questioned the veracity of many of Torre’s claims, especially Lois Wright.
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There is Yahoo GG Group, and Jerry Torre has posted many stories about his time with The Beales. He tries to make it sound like he was their savior…. And many of these people swallow it!!!!!
This is old info and Jerry has since stated that what he remembers is what he remember and we all know our memories are not perfect, not even Lois’.
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/greygardens/message/17506
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/greygardens/message/3986
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/greygardens/message/36067
GREAT!!! A Blog about Jerry Torre! I am so glad to have found this!!!
Jerry Torre, “THE MARBLE FAUN” has to be one of the most FASCINATING people out there! The fact that he IS one of the “Little Guys” , drives a cab, takes up sculpting at this stage of life, cant spell worth a darn, (Neither can I!) yet managed to become the basis for one of the three main characters in a great, Tony award winning Broadway Musical certainly has brought out the CRAZIEST in some people!
The insane energy that is constantly expended to attack this guy has to be seen to be believed!
(Seems that Jerry even has his own deranged STALKER another sure fire mark of FAME)
When the play was in its very early stages, one suspects that certain people seem to have assumed that THEY would be featured in the story.
It must have been maddening to them to find out that when they put themselves forward as having part in THAT story, the writers met them, considered them, and just didnt find their part in this story to merit interest . Imagine that, having it dawn on you that when it is all said and done, YOU JUST AREN’T INTERESTING.
That purely and simply, they DID however find Mr Torre exceptionally interesting writing him into a major part of the play seems to have unleashed a steady stream of some exceptionally vitriolic borderline “Booby Hatch” rage against Mr. Torre as well as anyone who displays any friendship or interest with or in him.
To see Jerry not only immortalized in the wildly succesful Broadway Musical but ALSO to see the stars of the play absolutely fall in love with the REAL Jerry though most heartwarming for normal people has proven maddening for them
The REAL story here is almost as much the GREY GARDENS group mentioned as it is Jerry Torre!
The DRAMA that erupts on that group is HIGH DRAMA indeed!
One LONG RUNNING example of just such insecurity, instability and jealousy manifest over the net seems to be centered upon a most trainwreck-like interesting character who calls himself “Wallybaloo”.
He is actually Mr. Walter Newkirk who as a Rutgers student interviewed the Edies over FORTY years ago, ONCE and has been dining out on that story for decades now.
It is a complete substory watching the incredible fixation that Mr. Newkrik displays on anything “Jerry”
(Evidently the story there is rather pathetic including everything from romantic overtures spurned to dead rodents through the mail!)
To watch the melt down of the poor guy over the net as he sought unsuccessfully to challenge every memory that Mr. Torre had of his young teenage life was very sad.
To watch the ever widening circle of “people who just dont GET me” come under his erratic attacks was kind of frightening! The profanity and pornography heaped upon them by this guy would be funny if not so strangely Norman Batesish.
I encourage anyone that can join the Grey Gardens group and watch the manic energies of this man as he spirals out of control.
To go back and watch the fragmenting of this persona, “Wallyballoo” as it becomes more and more evident that HE has never found the kind of limelight that Mr. Torre has enjoyed is almost as good as the documentary itself!
Mr. Newkirk exceeds any braggadocio on the part of Mr. Torre as he constantly interjects all the people he has “Worked” with, everyone from Pat Loud to Jenna Bush to Pat Loud to Divine to Pat Loud to Elizabeth Taylor to did I mention Pat Loud???? (We never really DO find out HOW he worked with those people, maybe he followed behind Miss Taylor with a a pooper scooper cleaning up after her dogs?)
Another INTRIGUING side show there is to watch the assemblage of a rag tag group of women actually becoming an internet version of The Spahn Ranch girls who found their reason to exist in Charles Manson, this rather strange group has actually devoted an entire yahoo group cranking out sometimes over one hundred posts a DAY(!() all devoted to Wallyballoos seething overwhelming almost incapacitating hatred for the cab driver from New York, Jerry Torre. To watch these women striving to outdo themselves in how much they hate Poor Jerry Torre in order to get some comment or display of approval from Mr. Newkirk is well worth the viewing I can assure you!
Well all in all glad that someone is blogging about Jerry! Good things just keep happening for the guy everywhere! And thats got to be driving (LITERALLY) some people CRAZY!
Sean Conroy
Wow, these are impassioned comments! I’m not all that knowledgeable about Grey Gardens and Jerry Torre. I just thought it was amusing that this guy turns up after all those years out of the public eye driving a cab.
Hey Clopper!
You think THESE are impassioned remarks you should see some of the absolutely hysteric remarks on the Grey Gardens group, you simply wont believe them!
Sometimes I wonder WHERE on earth all the energy to keep this kind of stuff up comes from!
What will really amaze you as it amazes me and I am a PARTICPANT over there, is how absolutely and completely swallowed up INTO this all you can become before you know what even happened!
But Jery is one of the kindest sweetest people you will ever meet over the internet, I suggest you get in there, and jsut say hello to him! he will really hold your interest and he has had more adventures in his life than many have in theirs!
Once you get to know the guy it will leave you just as perplexed as it leaves most of us as to why a very few people have taken him on as their bete noire!
I guess thats just one of the prices you have to pay when you become famous, but all in all I think he handles them and their raw undiluted hate very well.
A true gentle man! I am so proud to say I know Jerry Torre and he really is GREAT!
Sean
Red Shoe’s comment is typical of how Jerry is attacked on the Yahoo site and now elsewhere when their old song lost interest. It’s as full of creative imagination as the attackers. And a false premise to obscure the less flattering reason.
Yes, Jerry overstated his case when he came to the site originally. But he is not alone in that regard. Everyone has and did and some still do; he was just clumsier and more public about it at first. Lois’ own memories contradict many of the tales that one of the film-makers has been dining out on for years as well, but no one really holds that against him.
I think the real problem between Jerry and his main detractor is the realization that when people got to know Jerry they saw a kind, spiritual person who tried to help the Beales as a teenager - and they forgive him his faults and see the gentle soul underneath.
With his main detractor, the closer you get the further away you want to be.
That realization must really rankle him.
So, it’s not a matter of fans. It’s a matter of likability. One is and one isn’t. And the one that isn’t just can’t stand it.
I do not hate Jerry Torre.
I never sent him or anyone a rat in the mail ever in my lifetime. I have offered to take a lie detector test and have written Mr. Torre several letters re this to which he does not reply
These false accusations perpetuated by Sean Conroy in the post above and a few others are preposterous and false.
Jerry Torre says on the British version of the Grey Gardens DVD that he “lived” at Grey Gardens for 4 years - Lois Wright says in a letter she posted that he never lived there. According to a tape recorded interview I have with Edie Beale - she says he never lived there. I really could care less to be honest with you. It’s a 2 minutes section on a 72 minutes interview that does not focus on Jerry, but Edie and Grey Gardens. This entire situation has gone terribly askew based on lack of telephone conversations to clear up misunderstandings.
Since I no longer post on the Grey Gardens website and these posts were brought to my attention, let me say that I wish Jerry Torre only the best.
Some people should get a life and SOME people, SEAN CONROY, need not libel/slander others in PUBLIC forums. It is bad enough him and his friends hacked a private site and made public things that were hurtful and said privately, now he is coming to yet another site and spreading gossip for no other reason other than being immature, lacking tact/class and lack of anything better to do with time????
To Sean Conroy, Pig In A Poke (wow like we all don’t know who that is) …you guys need to GET A LIFE.
I love to have my name bantered around - any publicity is good publicity, so keep on keepin on fellas…you have no comprehension of what a publicist is or does. Hence the OJ Simpson and Anna Nicole books…so keep my name out there guys. But what does Sean Conroy know? NOTHING. He twists the truth -so keep on twisting and twisting and twisting. I think this trying to build a hate campaign against me when I have no hate or jealousy for anybody. This is all hilarious.
Oh yes, I am also not Jerry Torre’s “main detractor” but thanks for that moniker Mr. Pig IN A Poke…u stir, and stir and stir the pot - you and Mr. Sean are viewed as TROUBLEMAKERS by many who have nothing to do with fansite so keep that in mind. Others are reading your crap and realizing to keep their distance from YOU!
And re Sean Conroy’s references to my professional credentials…specifically Pat Loud and Elizabeth Taylor -
In 1996, I worked with AmFAR on behalf of a PR firm I was employed with in relation to Elizabeth Taylor’s appearance at the United Nations about AIDS. There was a luncheon before her appearance at the UN and the company I worked for donated a B-roll newsfeed for the event. I worked on this event at the United Nations that day with Miss Taylor and AMFAR personnel. Her dog(s) were not present at this event.
Re Pat Loud - Pat Loud has been a very good friend of mine since I first interviewed her as a college student in 1974. Our lives have been intertwined since we first met and she also has been of assistance to me professionally over the years. She is a very dear friend; almost a surrogate mother to me in some ways. I hosted a party in her apartment which Edie attended, and also introduced Pat to Edie…Pat Loud has also written an essay about Edie Beale for my book.
I have very good credentials and I am very proud of my professional accomplishments ….
Mr. Conroy - please try to refrain from your ranting and raving in your public posts. And you claim to be professional? Now, that’s really funny.
Sean’s Revolutionary Commune For The Day Website/Fansite
Here is his introduction:
Grey Gardens ,the symbol of hardship surmounted, ugliness made beautiful and freedom of expression exemplified in the midst of fear and close mindedness just the other side of the Privet hedge, is our emblem and model.
Come on in! Watch out for the cats!!!!!!
You are invited to participate with us in the free expression of our innermost souls! Nastiness is allowed as we encourage giving just as good as you get! Care to be intolerant? Welcome! Be just as intolerant as you like, just remember your intolerance is open to any and all criticism besides, we NEED a few targets to practice shooting at anyway!
Let the strength of your ideas carry the day! Libertarians welcome! Republicans welcome! Democrats welcome Anarchists, communists and Holy Rollers WELCOME!!!!!!!
In all these things remember …TRUTH CAN STAND QUESTIONING, LIES CANNOT!
Really, LIES you say?
you are perpetuating a LIE about me and this ridiculous rodent in the mail crap
LET’S CLEAR UP THE LIE fellas
have the detective call me
get out the lie detector
No rat and nothing via US Mail was ever sent from me to Jerry Torre
I am a Christian and I swear this on a stack of Bibles from here to the moon…
Four responses. OCD much?
Heaven help us from this “Christian.” Manhunt is your church, I suppose?
And no one hacked a private site, doofus. The Beddazzler just didn’t know that you have to choose an option to keep the message archives out of view to non-members. Over two dozen people were reading them in real time. No one was charmed.
Oh, and are you forgetting about cameras placed at the Chatham NJ P. O.? You had to take your “package” to the counter, Pope VPL. You should see how clear the photo is. Perfect for publication, perhaps?
Well Clopper, can you see now what I mean about the “ENERGY”!!! And now the girls really ARE coming to bat for the guy! “Squeakie!” Ya gotta love THAT! The hilarious thing is that now we are tossing around the threats of Libel/ Slander !
Where of course there is NONE. All that was mentioned was that the *story* includes spurned romantic advances and dead rodents, of course no where did it state WHOSE advances were spurned OR WHO sent the rodent or actually any statement that a rodent actually WAS sent merely that EVIDENTLY the STORY includes that….
But what is so hilarious is that there is INDEDED Slander and libel in miss Squeakies claim that I and others HACKED a site, when the reality is that they either carelessly or more probably in my opinion DELIBERATELY set the groups settings on PUBLIC! And interesting to note that by their own admission the things on that PUBLIC site WERE INDEED HURTFUL!!! Along with quite a FEW libellous and slanderous statements about quite a few unsuspecting people.
And of course the sad truth is that RESPONDING to “Red Shoes on a Thursdays” opening salvo of an attack on Jerry Torre is labelled as coming on here to spread gossip.
Unfortunately for all involved, the photo shopped pornography of images of people in various states of undress or in tortured postions, with various Grey Gardens members heads Photo shopped in, and forwarded on by Mr newkirk, as well as threatening and profanity laced series of emails to various people who crossed these guys are all out there to be seen as well as the ARCHIVED series of HUNDREDS of venomous posts attacking anyone and EVERYONE who dared to have anything to do with Mr. Torre, and all PUBLIC (!) not as is so slanderously and libellously implied HACKED from a private site!
Yeah get ready for a barrage of posts now, What surpsises me is that so far only “Squeaky” has posted , you would kind of expected Patricia Krenwinkle Linda Kasabian and Susann Atkins to have chimed in by now as well.
Received an email from Mr. newkirk this morning asking me to cease defending Jerry when he is under attack by these guys (My words not his) had seriously purposed to just walk away from this guy, but now see he is already issuing what can TRULY become a torrent of hundred if not thousands of threatening ominous foreboding replies….
Well I think I will jsut sit back and watch the manic energies bubble over here.
Oh and sorry about the pooper scopoper comment. I didnt know it was a Luncheon he worked at! Sorry…. I wont say it~! I wont say it!!!
Sean
DOnt know if I will bother with it anymore, I think the record of those who watched all this evolve over the past few years speaks for itself, maybe I will jsut kick back now and wait for the REST of the family to “get here” PS loved the part about “You claim to be a professionaly” WHERE on earth did THAT ome from????
Funny how such a well known publicist, one who’s worked with such big names, can’t be found publicizing anything online. Seems rather suspect, don’t you think?
LOL
you and Kent deserve each other
You dont’ know anything about publicity or promotion just like Sean Conroy doesn’t know anything about anything
he’s so high and mighty …we all laugh our heads off about him
once again, there is no record of me @ the Chatham post office…LOL I never even went there until recently I exclusively used the Madison post office
keep on keepin on you sick stalkers
What do you do for a living Sean? My current position is as a publicist/booker for satellite TV tours…my last project was with Jenna Bush and my current project is with Shirley MacLaine.
What else would you like to know?
And pig in a poke / babs johnson we do know who you are…all of your aliases…the most private emails are the ones you sent to me - and you had to erase all of your emails on the GG site - we noticed you LOSER.
research that well known biographer/historian Kent Bartram…his credits are all over the internet LOL
poor Sean…he couldn’t even speak to a woman on the phone because he was afwaid…
be a man sean
you are big baby
Some of you people (Sean, miss Piggy, etc.) are VERY sick. Too bad you don’t know how to get a life. How do you sleep at night, being so cruel as you are?
Well Clopper NOW do you see what you’ve opened up for?
Nine Posts on your blog yesterday from Mr. Newkirk alone ! And you aint seen NUTHIN’ yet! It doesn’t even BEGIN to compare with the HUNDREDS (Literally HUNDREDS!!!) of messages they have sent to each other on their 11 member group…SINCE FRIDAY!!!! And of course the vast majority of those messages are issuing forth from the fingers of one very ENERGIZED guy…
Just wait til he gets REALLY fired up! It’s absolutely unbelievable!! And when HE starts to run out of steam he can always send in the clowns, I mean the gals, who will fall all over themselves to lash out against anything that moves in order to win some word of affection or approval from Charlie.
Have to laugh about how all of a sudden Mr. Newkirk has to float the tentative “I have never even BEEN to the Chatham Post Office , well actually I HAVE been there, BUT NOT UNTIL RECENTLY… remark, now he must be a little worried….now he IS admitting to being there, just not until recently…hmmm that’s starting to worry him. (What else is kind of worrying are the fears that some of his GIRLS expressed to me ABOUT him in emails they sent me privately, which they asked me to delete out of fear for what he might do if they ever saw the light of day…)
And what do I do for a living???? I sit around all day and Drink Latte macchiattos in Europe, sleep til noon and stay up as I like, go shopping when the mood strikes me, or to art galleries or museums, visit friends for the day, come back in the evening and wrestle the critters that come out of the woodwork over the internet, go out for lunch and dinner, travel around Europe, in fact The World! Visit friends anywhere in the WORLD whenever I get the notion, in fact got the notion to visit some this last week so Friday I am on my way! Have homes in the Middle East and Europe, of course not as warm and cozy as Walters one room hovel in NJ, no mine unfortunately are MUCH larger. Its terrible, I know, but someone has to live this way! I guess I just have to grin and bare it!
yes what a sad pathetic empty life is Sean’s….I will be reflecting on that in the weeks to come as I am tooting around southern California and the southwest in a convertible zooming down the highway! Doomed to spending the nights in sleazy four and five star hotels…. Poor empty Sean….boo hoo.
But that is always the way with Milquetoasts…. (The new Sobriquet Walter gives me because at the time I spoke to him over the phone i had yet to detect the hideous pattern of violent ragings etc that he gives himself over to..evidently Walter attributes normal conversation as being Milquetoast, and outrage at seeing his filth rained down on women as being “Mr Hyde ” behaviour… Unfortunately that may all be true in his estimation, I guess I just don’t “GET” him…
I tell ya’ its more fun than a barrel of monkeys some times!!!! I am looking at these comments above, and they start to get so bizarre that they actually don’t even mean anything or have any basis in any even slightly connected reality. The |And YOU call yourself a Professional!” has nothing to do with anything I have ever uttered in this universe…must be something from Walters Parallel universe of strange voices, weird colours and odd smells…For example the “Sean couldn’t even speak to a woman on the phone because he was afwaid….” remark, what on EARTH is THAT all about??? Does it reference a hesitance to make direct content with strangers encountered over the internet who might JUST turn out to be as unstable as Walter and his alter egos who are now emerging from their bunker under Spahn ranch even as we type??? That could be, I think though it references a comment I made quite a ways back at how surprised **I** was that some of the women on the group were so free to give ***ME*** their phone numbers and invite me to visit when they Knew Nothing about me. But That fear FOR the safety of people who open up to strangers over the internet is undoubtedly LOST on the likes of this guy who thinks of no one but himself, who indeed DOES turn out to be someones worst nightmare when actually engaged, unfortunately as his emailed profanities and pornographies demonstrate that this is one very scary individual indeed. Ask any of the WOMEN including a sixty year old Grandmother in Pittsburgh who have become the object of his ….attentions???
I for the life of me cant even associate some of the things that Walter could even be Deliberately misconstruing here. The insane lashing out against people now will become filled with these kind of statements that have meaning ONLY in the twisted paranoid/schizophrenic disassociated speech of the crowd who surround this guy.
Its heartwarming though to know that the little circle of hate has their own table where they can sit around and laugh their heads off about me, or anyone else that they have expressed displeasure in. yeah, i can see them now, sitting around,,,, laughing…. and laughing… and laughing…. and laughing….. and shrieking…. and howling….. and pleading with the orderlies to loosen the straps on their straight jackets and laughing some more, until the Thorazine is administered to calm them down a little bit….
well when Walter asks someone to stop responding about him, you would think he would wait at LEAST two or three hours before going on line to hurl a barrage of taunts just BEGGING to be answered,,,,You would THINK that , but poor Walter, he doesn’t think so good…..
Well it DOES occur to me that this back and forth probably needs to stop, it is the thing Walter lives for. His statement in an earlier post doesnt quite tell the whole story. he commented that he doesn’t post on the grey Gardens site anymore, which is true, but unlike some who do so out of conviction, HE doesn’t post there anymore because he was BANNED. and when he popped up using OTHER identities, he was BANNED again, IN FACT he even Posted as LOIS in that group! That is why anyone quoting “LOIS” might want to double check…do we mean LOIS Lois or WALTER lois.
I think ( mind you I THINK) I wont be responding to the guy anymore, it seems to be the one thing he desperately needs, response even from those he has managed to so completely alienate as myself….
Sean the ne’er do well.
Sean, if your life is so full, why do you spend time writing long drawn out posts about something that you claim is so foolish? And telling strangers how rich you are in comparison with walter? it proves only one thing: you are superficial.
Why does it bother you that Walter has his own cult? (your words, dear) The GRey GArdens/Jerry Torre cult kicked YOU out of their site, is that why? YOu laugh that this other group only has 11 members. YOUR group only has 3. You invited everyone you could from Grey Gardens and THEY didnt want to join! The few that did bowed out after a few weeks.
the elderly grandmother in PA? she sends drunken posts in the middle of the night to people she doesnt know, asking what kind of sex they are into, asking details. she gets flustered and apologizes when she is sober and is called on it the next day. SHE knows what this is about.
why does it bother you so much that the other ‘group’ has a lot of posts? is because your group doesnt have so many? Why do you go out of your way to check on the number of posts in a group that doesnt want you and you dont want?
Step back Mr. Sean….ask yourself why this matters to you.
Enjoy yoour riches, Sean. Enjoy yourself as you ride about in you convertable. I truly hope having money and being able to jet set makes you truly happy and makes you forget WHO you are and WHY you are the way you are. Money doesnt buy happiness, a fresh past or friends and family. And from your posts, it buyz zero class and negative zero tact.
you sound like a 14 year old girl, really!
The best thing on this thread is that Walter Newkirk just admitted publicly that he used the Madison NJ post office. What a maroon.
I use the Madison NJ post office to mail letters.
A rat or rodent was never sent to anyone.
If such a thing ever happened and there was a photograph of someone, the police or a detective would have investigated such a thing a long, long long time ago.
And that is my last word on this nonsense.
If this rat thing never happened, why exactly does it keep coming up?
Drink the Kool-Aid girls, drink the Kool-Aid.
Hey……….60 year old sweet Granny here. You all must have missed me so much. I see Wally and his Hagz are still going strong. Interesting little group of gutter rats…………
Regarding the mailed rat incident,if there is a surveillance tape of the alleged mailing and it has been investigated, why has there been no arrest made?
I suspect this is much like OJ Simpson still out there looking for Nicole Brown Simpson’s real killer.
- Why let the truth ruin a good story
Brooksie….if you’re a granny, with that kind of nasty attitude, I pity your grandkids. “Wally” happens to be extremely well thought of and loved by people who actually matter, not the least of which was Little Edie HERSELF. Wonder what she would think of all these vicious comments about someone she loved and cared about for so many years? As for his “hagz”….lady, I know some of them, and I don’t think you want to call them that to their faces. They eat “sweet old grannies” like you for breakfast. Now, enough already! Don’t make me release the flying monkeys!
This is so funny. why do any of you care one bit about any of this? other than PURE IMMATURITY and lack of a real life????
things come up, i THINK, because YOU people keep it going. YOU love it.
if ANYONE sent a dead animal in the mail and there were pictures, there would be a shut case for this and someone would be in a lot of trouble. it doesnt take but a morons brain to figure this out. Its a federal offense to mess with the U S Mail, and since 9/11, NO ONE is sending anything in the mail that isnt legit. This justr proves how stupid, immature, and not well thought out this is.
And grow up granny! for being so olde you sure act like a kid.
! personally cannot wait for Mr. Newkirks CD to come out. The publicity is out there, it will be a smash hit! The book is to follow and it will be a hit as well.
Why don’t you all call a temporary truce to your bickering and watch the American Theater Wing episode on GG.
http://tinyurl.com/2vnwvq
Featuring:
Erin Davie, Christine Ebersole, Scott Frankel, Sue Frost, Michael Greif, Michael Korie, Mary Louise Wilson, Doug Wright
In conclusion……it is clear to me and every normal person that Jerry Torre is indeed a wonderful hard working person. One I would personally love to meet and get to know. Those that continue to try to say he is a story teller and liar are just so sad. they only wish they had the rich life and friends that he has. Who are they anyway? and really, Who cares?
Wow…this is all TOO much! I have met Jerry several times and find him a very nice man. However, I cannot get over all the nonsense on this blog. I think we should all be more worried about Global Warming, the War, and the poverty in this country than argueing about how long Jerry knew the Beals. I mean, do you realize how crazy you all sound??? Little disagreements over the internet are much different than slander, and it sounds like that is what you are doing to this guy Walter. And Granny, I don’t know of ANYONE who enjoys being called a “Hagz” or gutter rat. I’m really sorry I stumbled onto this all…I really loved the musical, but you all have ruined it for me!
By the way……..Clopper? That is a horrible picture of Jerry Torre. He looks nothing like that. He is lean buff and a very healthy good looking guy. You should get a new picture of him for this blog.
How’s that one? Better?
Much better! Thanks!
Just got my Little Edie Live!CD. It is absolutely amazing! Many revelations, and a big one about the marble faun too! Well worth the $15.00. I am looking forward to Mr. Newkirk’s book!
Edie would be so PROUD!
http://mrschu81.wordpress.com/about/
Indeed she would …that I make friends easily and don’t have as many people hating me as some other people who are writing books about her who never knew her
Commercialism at its finest. This coming from a guy who repeatedly said he would NEVER, EVER sell his LE mementos.
This fool loves to track every single word I say and then cannot even use his or her OWN name to stand by his statement.
gee I wonder who this internet bully is?
Gee I wonder if the HYSTERIAN Mr. Pig In A Poke is involved? Mr. W.C. Fields himself? The Pig Snout himself?
Hey Piggy so many think you are Sybil
you bedazzle us with your internet personas
you are the cyber Andrew Cunanan and Tom Ripley
you are a very sad and pathetic human being
u all think we don’t know who u are
2008 is going to be a year we all forget about you
we all decided that you are GARBAGE and that we won’t address you during the new year.
So knock yaself out Piggy.
Edie wouldn’t have liked you and I mean that from the bottom of my heart.
She sees how evil you are and how badly you have treated me and many others.
She was all about goodness and you are not.
Happy New Year PIGGY! We will be celebrating 2008 forgeting that you exist.
P.S. What I believe I said was that I would NEVER sell the letters to Edie…my book and CD are an effort to share some of Edie with GG fans.
And if I change my mind in the future and I do choose to sell the letters…SO WHAT?
Looks like Wally is off his meds again……….sigh……..here we go again!
The HYSTERIAN…Porky Pig…
Pig In A Poke…you are such a creep
Why not use your real name?
People told me this would happen -
Porky Pig and his friends Poopy Diapers and the others would behave this way…
LOL who cares? We don’t listen…
Thanks To Pulitzer Prize and Tony Award Winner Doug Wright - someone we REALLY care about and like for a lovely email with kind words about Little Edie Live!
Walter—
I’ve been a bit crazy with THE LITTLE MERMAID: you sent me an e-mail a few weeks back. Was it for a quote for your CD? If so, I offer the following:
“Walter Newkirk’s fascinating interview with Edie Beale contributes immeasurably to the legend of GREY GARDENS, and is a welcome listen for anyone intrigued by her singular, eccentric life.”
Thanks.
Doug Wright
Thank you, Doug!
http://www.greygardenscd.com
Little Edie Live! A Visit To Grey Gardens
P.S. What I believe I said was that I would NEVER sell the letters to Edie…..
Mr. Newkirk……..you can’t sell your letters to Edie. She died remember? Why would you want to sell them to her anyway?
looks like the Hysterian is trolling the internet - we found his posts on other sites also…get a life Mr. Poke…LOL
u r sad pathetic comedy
what I meant to say was I would never sell the letters sent to me by Edie
u r the TROLL of the internet mr. poke with all your aliases…we see you here there and everywhere…and if you think we don’t know who you are we do
Two Peas In A Pod
All of this is oh so professional of you, Mr. Newkirk. You think EVERYONE is Mr. Bartram. A bit paranoid? I believe so. Grow up.
A TRUE professional would rise above all of this S-H-I-T and ignore it. In your own words, “any publicity is good publicity” - with all of this going on, I’m SURE the Today show and Oprah will avoid you like the plague.
And by the way, I am NOT who you think I am.
Jeez, not in my wildest imaginings would I ever have thought that this post would bring my blog the most hits and the most comments.
Fascinating isn’t it Clopper?
I commented on one of the myriad of Grey Gardens groups that this thing is just like a religion! One that keeps fragmenting and fragmenting and fragmenting!
It certainly brings out BOTH the best and the worst of people. And I don’t mean the best and the worst people, but rather the best and the worst OF many times the SAME individuals! (I include myself here)
This whole thing ought to be the basis for someones college thesis! Not the Grey Gardens documentary, but the Grey Gardens groupies LIKE MYSELF!!!!
It’s like that (opening up for another run of battling posts) but…its like that crazy religion “The Unarians” where the angel Ariel (the lovable Aunt Clara Clone Ruth Norman) started a religion and actually found people to follow it! check out some of THEIR youtube deals under the heading UNARIUS !
Can you imagine a religion that virtually worships Nicola Tesla?? With an Aunt Clara duplicate parading around waving red plastic roses , ball gowns and wearing tiaras???!!!!
I wanna join!
And now that the movie is close to being finished you can bet your bottom dollar (or betchyerbottomdollah) that the energy will all bubble up again! And heaven help us if the play opens in London!
On the lighter side…what do you suppose would have happened if Big Edie and Little Edie had MET Ariel, became Unarian, and went off to California to live out in El Cajon awaiting the landing of the Space Aliens ? One can only imagine!
Thanks for giving (some of) us a Billion Laughs Clopper!
Sean
OOOPS! Now I have left myself open to not going up in the space ship when it comes!!!!! It’s NOT Ariel…its URIEL! My Bad! If you do check out youtube unarius, be sure and scrolldown past the arrival sequence to past the release of the doves and the flying saucer on the old car, down to uriel herself. Its just a seven second clip , but you will see exactly what I mean by “Aunt Clara” clone! (Who needs scientology when you can worship Aunt Clara!)
Sean
She’s pretty strange! Is she dead?
Yeah she passed away a year or two after the “Brothers” from outer space (Wasnt there a blacksploitation filmed called something like that?) anyway she died a year or two after the Brothers from outer space were supposed to arrive and build this giant Tesla coil deal that was going to not only provide free power for the entire earth but also usher in an era of peace and harmony on the earth. The land is still there in El Cajon, California waiting for their arrival. The Unarians are going about as strong as they ever were, in fact just before I flew out of Los Angeles to Zurich, they had that deal “The Arrival” which purports to explain a large portion of their faith or religion, they had that on every night about eleven pm, and thats what made me remeber them so vividly.
They actually may indeed be the seed of the scientologist movement as their ideas of this war of aliens in the millenium past and the spirits of the good and the evil being reincarnated, is basically the scientologist foundation. They were certainly there in California BEOFRE L RON came up with his version of their religion. Just think that Ruth (Uriel/Aunt Clara) was a little “TOO” SPACEY (pun definitely intended) to be taken seriously! Had she atracted Cruise, Alley and Travolta, there’s no tellin if the Unarians wouldn’t be the cult of the hour instead of the Scientologists!
Well the miracle of it all to me is that she attracted ANYBODY AT ALL as loony , though LOVEABLY looney, as she appears to have been!
Sean
An update on what continues to be a wonderfully fascinating human being, Jerry Torre!
Jerry is once again gaining wonderful attention as the Metropolitan Playhouse is presenting
“Little Edie and the Marble Faun”
adapted by
David Lally
” Handyman Jerry Torre was referred to as “The Marble Faun” by Edith Bouvier Beale (best known for her reclusive life with her mother, Edith, in the East Hampton mansion “Grey Gardens”) Here is Hawthorne’s story “The Marble Faun” featuring Miriam and Donatello and how their lives parallel the lives of Big Edie, Little Edie and Jerry”
You know the number and venuesthat find this guy intersting are incredible! I mean my goodness, The Metropolitan Playhouse???!
I think that is why as you say this was your biggest thread. Jerries life is just one incredible honor after another.
the site for the metropolitan playhouse is
http://www.metropolitanplayhouse.org
click on Hawthornucopia for more info!
Sean
yoou people should be ashamed of yourselves.
poor Edi, virtually ignored in life and exploited in death. Shame on all of you. Have you got nothing better to do?
I’ve known Jerry for several years, he is a friend and neighbor and I see him often at the gym or while walking my dog. The interesting thing about this is that what I knew about Jerry for the first few years was only that he drove a cab and at one time had worked for the Saudi royal family (which is fascinating in itself). It wasn’t until the release of the re-edited “Beales of Grey Gardens” that I found out who he was–he was pretty spiffed up and when I asked why he told me it was for some event related to the musical (I had never made the connection prior to that–I went back and watched the film and it is unmistakably him–his voice is quite distinctive). He is one of the humblest, gentlest people you will ever meet and when he recently took some time to tell my visiting mother about his time at Grey Gardens (at my request) he was worried that he might come off as bragging. I cannot imagine what the purpose of or motivation for the attacks against this man are.
By the way, he has not made a penny off of the Grey Gardens phenomenon, though plenty of others have.
Walter Newkirk is one of the greatest people who ever lived I am a Bear and his friend
Hi Doll,
I believe every thing you say regardless of what Newkirk and Lois say.
Just saw Memorbeala at buck a book.
Hey Walters book is not sold at buck a book.